Help me Obi-Wan Kenobi - 1st Place Tournament winner 5-1 2.0

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Cloud you explain the rulling behind using Obi-Wan's ability alter Noble Sacrifice?

@Xir After Obi death he can use Noble sacrifice, so he kill himself resolving the card (Noble sacrifice) activating the habilty again before the death, so you can use another card. :) (Sorry my nas english)

@Rosalvos would you be able to use Noble Sacrifice twice in one resolution? If so then why you only have 1 copy in your deck?

Great deck!! Can you explain to me how you use force illusion in this deck. Most of the times the opponent does a lot of damage in one activation. Do you use force illusion and discard a lot of cards or do you only use force illusion on smaller damage numbers? I tried force illusion in my Luke/rey deck but most of the times I dont want to discard 6+ cards from my deck.

You can't defeat a character twice. As a result you can't trigger before a character is defeated more than once per character (Second Chance being the exception to this). Hopefully you didn't play Noble Sacrifice like that in your tournament because that would be an illegal play.

@Xir @BeNNyBiLL Actually, it looks like today's FAQ lets you use Obi-Wan's death to play Noble Sacrifice, and then any other card you want. Too bad it's worded so poorly, but it sounds like the "first Noble Sacrifice" in this example is played after your opponent defeats Obi Wan, since they say it's played using Obi's ability:

If I use Obi-Wan Kenobi’s (EaW37) ability to play a Noble Sacrifice (Aw118) from my discard pile before he is defeated, what happens? Can I play a second copy of Noble Sacrifice, and then another card off of the second Noble Sacrifice?

You can play a second copy of Noble Sacrifice. However, only one Noble Sacrifice has an effect. Before Obi-Wan Kenobi is defeated, you can trigger his ability to play a Noble Sacrifice. Then, before he is defeated from that Noble Sacrifice, you can play another copy of it since “Before” effects interrupt the game. Repeat this to then play any other Blue card you want from your discard pile or hand. Then the second Noble Sacrifice resolves, and Obi-Wan is defeated and you can choose and exhaust a character. However, the next Noble Sacrifice that resolves does nothing, since you can no longer defeat Obi-Wan; he is already defeated.

They sugests the combo in a Team Covenant video. :)

Great. Thank you for claryfing this.

@Winter_soldier Thx, i hope you have fun with this deck! :) Force Illusion Is a very situational card, many times I do not mind discarding 4-6 cards, especially if it is extremely necessary to make my character alive. But often I use force ilusion simply to take the focus off Rey, a lot of people hit Obi-wan in case you play force illusion on Rey at the beginning of the game. But the truth is that it will depend on many things, but sometimes avoiding 3 damage with it already makes a lot of difference. I hope I have helped :)

@Xir you're wlecome bro :)

@Xir You're welcome bro :)

Todays FAQ? Have you got a source for that? FFG site only has the June update. The wording of that FAQ post is really misleading. They fail to nail down the case of just 1 noble play or 3+ potential noble plays, so its really just inferred that you realistically would only play 1 and get an extra blue card play ontop of that. Talk about a gray area in the rules...

@BeNNyBiLL Sorry, not todas FAQ just copying This from a forum

@BeNNyBiLL but it's Just onde Noble in combo.. Die > Noble sacrifice > another blue card

@BeNNyBiLL trampo covenant Just talk about This combo in a video

Once a character is defeated he can't be defeated again. Noble Sacrifice play no bueno

@BigMac826 he won't doe twice... Noble sacrifice resolves before Obi-wan die and kill himself before.. Team covenant explained This..

@Rosalvos hey man sorry to say but I think team covenant is wrong, a character cannot be defeated twice. They're great dudes, but not the designers of the game

The Noble Sacrifice play is 100% legal. Also it's a great play

I realise now I was wrong. Obi Wan never actually gets defeated between resolving his own ability twice and you just end up with two states of "Obi wan is defeated" resolve in a row, which naturally the second one just fizzles as there is no Obi Wan left to defeat. Pretty neat actually.

For some reason I feel like I remember Lukas saying a character couldn't be defeated twice when asked about this exact situation.

But if I'm wrong, I'm wrong! Sorry if that's the case @Rosalvos. Solid decklist and writeup either way

@BigMac826 A character cant be defeated twice, but he use the ability before die, so he use the full noble sacrifice e then he die to the noble. Haha, no problem, it`s a great deck! =D

@Rosalvos Great deck. Thank you. Can you name the video explaining obi-wan, noble sacrifice and one with the Force from team covenant?

Ok, for those who wonder, Obi is never defeated twice... his card clearly read "before this character is defeated" which means he never died twice... noble sacrifice's effect defeat him before. If you play a 2nd noble sacrifice though, it has no effect...

@the BEAST thx mate, exactly this

I love the combo of Rey and Obi-Wan. Got a deck a bit similar, though I have included Force Protection and Force Heal instead of Force Illusion and some of the events. :)

Loving the look of this. Curious how Heroism is working out and if you feel it's necessary alongside guardian. Did you ever try Close Quarters Assault with this?

@MassiveNerd The heroism is great on the deck, many times you will already have activated the Obi-wan and will not pofer to use the guardian. Not to mention that the heroism does not only serve to save the king, sometimes also it will be used to save the old Kenobi, spreading the damage and delaying the adversary. Not to mention that the heroism is very strong against palpatine. I've tested close quarters assault, but sometimes we do not have time to use it and it ends up being a dead card in the hand. I hope you like the deck :)

@Bialaska O love the deck, each one adapt to your way! It's a great deck! :D

I have been running a similar deck, however in place of the action cheating cards like Force Speed, and Swiftness I have been playing more survival focused cards like Willpower, and Jedi Robes With cards like these helping me to survive longer and develop my board state. Have you tried a more survival/fatigue version of the deck, and how do you feel it compares to your deck? I would also love to know how many people competed in the tournament. Either way I am very excited to see another Obi-Wan player, and your deck has inspired me to make some interesting changes to my own.

@TunaFish

I've tested the willpower and even though I liked the card a lot I did not like the result, I often used the card to rerroll or turned a dead card in my hand. Then I realized that survival was not so important if I killed the enemy character that deals more damage in a quick way. The championship had 12 people and practically only the meta deck. I faced unkar, fn, royal guard twice, vader, royal guard and palpatine, which was my only defeat because of a missplay, I used the guardian in the wrong die forgetting no mercy. In the top 4 I faced emo kids and in the finals emo kids again. In most games I killed both the little vader and the Fn in the second round, not causing me much problem. I think the difference between our decks is that yours has more sustain and mine is a bit more aggro, focusing on action cheat for evitsr controls. But that diversity is what makes the game so beautiful, the two decks have a different way of playing but that does not mean that one is stronger than the other. :)

Heroism didnt work in mine as most people will target obi which means he will die way too quick. If he is the target you need to ditch the guardian and start to utilise his dice as early as possible. Destiny was also removed as it became a discard to reroll in nearly every game.

@Angelus073 Heroism is exactly to spread the damage, if they are focusing the Obi use heroism to do damage to the King. Destiny is a great card to use in the first round and gives you an upgrade advantage, but if you do not like take it and adapt The deck for your playing style :)

@RosalvosI have been playing a variation of this this since spirit came out. And have made dozens of tweaks to get it working as I wanted.

@Angelus073 But i'ts woking as you wanted now? I hope so =D

@Rosalvos looks very cool - looking forward to trying it out. Could you explain your pick of battlefield over the others? And maybe some thoughts on your mulligan?

Does the timing structure allow Obi-Wan's ability to play One With the Force on him from the discard pile for free, and then have it put itself into play as a support? Would it still allow that if you use Obi-Wan's ability to play Noble Sacrifice like was being talked about earlier?

@Rhaplanca1001 yes and yes haha

@MekANerD This battlefield can rotate your deck very well, you don't need to discard your hand when the turn end, you just put the cards you dont want and buy more cards, it's great!

Man, always try to start tha game with force speed and guard, if makashi, or virboknife appears pick one of them :)